Tertiary Redux
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posted by Vicky Jo at 3:18 AM
Thursday, June 15, 2006
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Huh.. most intriguing. Your Ti in the child position would be my demon position, and I was just casually reading when I suddenly saw that you knew the rules for editing proper professional papers. Okay my memory fail me on what you said but, it struck a chord when I suddenly remembered something. School projects... I Hated those.. not because its work, but I always hide it from my father because when he sees it.. He'll always point out whats wrong with it, or whats wrong with what I'm doing. While I'm just sitting there Fuming because I never asked for it and never wanted it lol. I even snapped at him acouple times when he did that. Altho I must confess.. I don't know if he's using Te or Ti... I honestly don't know the real differences between them. And I also know that what I said is pretty vague as I felt energized when I wrote it... hm... *sighs* I wish I knew more, I'd be able to figure this out for myself lol.
Okay.. First off I want to apologize for this but after making the comment here that I did, something came up when I was in the shower room. So I'll probably be gone for abit, without leaving you in the dark as to what it is.. I don't truly understand what happened, this side of me came out after I was going through what I Might say to clarify what I said and I started going through this whole Am I okay? Am I normal? routine that if I'm currently in it, would be the only thing of any real importance to me.. Craving for compliments from other people, ugh I hate it when I do that. Again, I understand that it might not relate to Anything to type. But I"ll be gone for a little bit to regain that detachment. And Please... don't take my craving for compliments seriously. It happens to me almost every time I start to get close to new people and I Don't want to be a slavering monster begging for tidbits.
I'm a little lost about some of what you're communicating, but here are a few things I notice.
Certainly criticism is *easy* for Thinking to do, and it seems quite likely introverted Thinking would be coaxed out during school projects. =8-O
And, given your reaction to it, it's quite possible it *was* demonic. Enough of that criticism, and it can undermine your self-esteem pretty badly, due in some part to how we tend to introject our parent's voices and use them against ourselves. So there may be some longterm damage there that you get to heal (and heal and heal and heal).
The other thing I'm noticing in a big way is how the a Shadow piece showed up. In your pattern, it should be the ODOP (One-Dimensional-Opposing-Personality). You write, Craving for compliments from other people, ugh I hate it when I do that.
And over here, I'm noticing that there's a push/pull with extraverted Feeling (compliments tend to come from this process). So there's a whole bunch of tension around this. And my guess is that when somebody *does* give you compliments, there's a part of you that rejects them, maybe thinks they're insincere and stupid. Do you notice all this energy around it?
Let me know how this lands with you.
I've got more Beebe stuff about Fe/Fi that I need to get up on the site, but you guys are keeping me so busy dialoging I haven't had time. :-P
Thanks for the coaching, Bill! ;-D
I don't see it as "giving away my power" so much as "reminding you I'm human."
But you're right -- it does sound like I'm choosing to be helpless.
You're insights into the tertiary Si function of the INFP are particulary insightful. All of it resonates with me--everything from INFPs who get sore throats because they have to deal with something unpleasant to the INFPs need to put things in order as well as the INFPs who have a tendency to barrage others with facts about a topic that interests them.
As an INFP, here's how my Fi and Si functions can simultaneously work against me: I almost always feel uncomfortable when I see someone else experiencing physical discomfort, even though I'm physically fine. My dominant Fi makes me identify with the person on a personal, intimate level, and my tertiary Si makes me hypersensitive to the physical discomfort the other person feels in his/her.
OH. That makes the whole "dumbchills" thing make more sense too. It's more visceral than I realized.
Hi Vicky Jo,
I've never come across the 'tertiary redux' idea before, and it seems very interesting.
If possible, could you please elaborate more, or provide some examples, of an 'overblown' tertiary; specifically, Ti and Si?
For example, let's say "all else being equal" (I know...I know) an INFJ and INFP work in the same environment, doing the same job. Let's say that they're both teachers -- they teach MBTI, for example.
What would overblown Ti (from an 'unhealthy' or 'off balance' INFJ look like? And Si from an INFP? How might they express themselves in this kind of situation?
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