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posted by Vicky Jo at 2:57 AM
Thursday, June 15, 2006
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I agree that one shouldn't use the mere experience of, or desire for, psychic phenomena as a reason to choose INFJ. But I wanted to point out that the webpage referenced actually says that INFPs are better than INFJs at passively receiving transmitted thoughts (and ENFPs are best of all). The part of the page that talks about precognition doesn't mention the personality types.
This makes a lot of sense to me. It would make sense that different cognitive functions would relate to different types of psychic phenomena. As far as receiving thoughts transmitted to one, Ne makes sense. I do think INFJs probably tend to experience more psychic phenomena of the types that relate more directly to Ni and Fe.
Well now I'm curious. What types of psychic phenomena would one expect Ni and Fe to experience?
The example I would share is one Dr. Beebe recently reminded me of Carl Jung experiencing. Apparently he had disturbing dreams of "red rivers of blood." These dreams pre-dated World War II, and of course it's easy now to see how he may have been foreseeing that devastating world conflict. It's natural for Ni to be symbolic and imagistic, so it's not like getting a message so clearly articulated as "Bet on the 5th horse." That's why I suspect most palm-readers and fortune-tellers are not using Ni but rather Ne.
In terms of Feeling, I remember an ENFJ telling me how she woke up in the middle of the night and just "knew" her daughter was in a risky situation of some kind, even though they were miles apart and the daughter was on vacation somewhere. When she was finally able to connect with her daughter, her "inner knowing" turned out to be eerily accurate. So perhaps this is an example of Feeling connection being coupled with introverted intuiting.
But I'm speculating, of course.
Your thoughts?
I've got a lot of thoughts about this, and even though I don't REALLY know the stuff at all I must share them anyway (that's my dominant Ne talking right there.)
Hello everyone, I'm now an ENFP, and I apologize for all my other posts where I claimed I was something else. What a dope. I know.
Anyway..
Vicky, I think that's a great observation, that palm readers/fortune tellers are using Ne. In fact, when I read online descriptions of 'cold reading' it sounded like a (sometimes used to horribly exploit people, gah!) use of Ne- the way probability is used in cold reading, it seems like a very Ne-Si activity.
Not sure if anyone will read this, but I've had strange phenomena my entire life and rarely shared it with anyone. I've taken one personality test after another and keep scoring INFJ. Instead of fighting the psychic-like occurrings, I now meditate in order to try to understand the things that happen. Since starting this, I receive strange vibration like feelings throughout my body whenever I happen upon something that will help my cause or someone I love. I now actually ask God questions and based on where the vibration like feelings happen, I get my answer. I know it sounds crazy, which is why I'm anonymous, but it's fascinating stuff and I'd like to talk to others who truly experience similar situations.
I am fairly certain I am an INFJ and the sense of 'knowing' things feels right on to me. All my life I have gotten feelings about things. How things would turn out, what would happen, what was the right desicion or the wrong. For this reason I rely heavily on my intuition and 'feelings' and I find I am usually right. One example is when my Mom was buying a new horse. She was very excited about this horse she had rode around a little and decided to buy it. I liked the horse ok too, but it just didn't feel right. I just knew somehow that it wasn't the horse for her, that it was a bad idea. I told her this, but becuase I couldn't give her an exact reason why I thought it wasn't a good idea, she got the horse anyway. Sure enough, not too long after, the horse really wasn't working out and she had to get rid of it. This may seem like a trivial example that could be explained in many ways, such as my suggestion affected her experience with the horse. This could very well be the case, but I get feelings about things all the time. Feelings about people and events. I wish I could describe it better. My feelings don't really help me too much in the sense I can tell the future. It is more I am just not surprised that something happened the way it did, becuase I knew it was going to happen that way. I wish too, that this resounded more with others, but it seems on this website at least, not too many people have experience with this phenomena. If any of you do have experience with this, I would be very interested to hear it.
Is is because of their very extreme sesiblity?
I don't really know what you're asking exactly.
What I do know is that Dr. Beebe [ENTP preferences] says he has a talent for "reading minds."
Ni tends to foresee things in a symbolic, archetypal way, while Ne tends to *anticipate* and deal with what is "emerging." Because Ne is an extraverted process, it deals with matters in the here-and-now, compared to Ni, which is introverted -- and thus archetypal and connected with the future and eternity. It's an inner process, not an outer one.
Language that clues me into their presence seems to include:
Ne -- could it be; is it possible; maybe...
Ni -- somehow I just know; I don't know how I know, I just do; aha!
Ne is sensitive to the outer world; Ni is sensitive to the inner world.
Usually Ni is convergent; Ne is divergent.
Let me know whether this is helpful.
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